"They" must be so fearful of something as wonderful as the TLM. 1000s of young people with large families, raising their children in the faith and instilling great spiritual values and virtues for their earthly and eternal lives. It runs afoul to "their" plans.
Why is this so important to them? Why do they have to take away this beautiful mass? When will things change? It is just so confusing and I pray that someday somehow someone will allow us to have both masses available throughout our dioceses.
OK Mona, you're either late to the movie because you thought the preview trailers would be longer, or you just don't get it, which is quite normal and so are you. This "beautiful mass" (their quotes) is a THREAT to their Vat II Jesuit Sophomoric Modernist pre-global religion, the pre-liturgy of which is the "Ordinary" Form, the Novus Ordo. Think Abu Dhabi and the Abrahamic "Worship" Center, https://stevekraut.substack.com/p/ode-to-nostra-aetate-in-time. They have no choice, they have to squash it. If we want the TLM, we must make great sacrifices. The past 5 or so years of my life have had me moving around to various places and various jobs, all in the effort to get to a stable parish with a guaranteed daily TLM, in my case an FSSP parish in East TX. If they get squashed, SSPX is next. I will NEVER go back to Egypt! I am at the midpoint of my 70th year in this mortal coil, am retired, and will most likely be buried in Southern ground.
I have been upset about this since the first moment when Pope Francis first put limits on the TLM mass WHICH I HAD NEVER ACTUALLY ATTENDED. It’s just so disheartening when the bishops actually shut down every TLM in their diocese. I have since attended this beautiful mass but it was inconvenient so we only went once a month. Now even that mass was shut down, so that is why I am becoming more upset with this whole mess. I am a convert since 1976, so I had never realized what I was missing until it was taken away.
I am a born in 1955 Boomer who was raised on it until that fateful year of 1970, and it being during the waning days of industrial strength Catholicism, my emotional development, we were all hooked on rock-n-roll. I was all about guitars at mass, cool man! It just goes to show that Joni Mitchell's famous lyric "you don't know what chu've got 'til it's gone" - Big Yellow Taxi (1970) is hauntingly true, but that's how we learn. The Trad movement is in reaction to the Church's French Revolution. Don't know what your current situation is Mona, but if there were any way possible, I'd be gettin' the hell outta Dodge.
Thank you, Steve. I agree with you 100%. I had no idea what I was missing. I’m 1957!! We have a property in Colorado that we have built and love, so we won’t be moving. Just trying to be as traditional as possible until things change.
Amy grant sang it in the 90's too. "You don't know what you've got til it's gone. The paved paradise and put up a parking lot. " in the Catholic case, there used to be a paradise of sorts in the pre Vatican two liturgy and then the wrecking ball came in the name of bringing the liturgy to the modern world. Anyway, my slow march towards traditionalism probably started when I was in junior high school and my parents took me to the cathedral for Christmas Mass. My birthday is on Christmas. All I remember about the Mass was the Christmas Ham homily. The bishop or archbishop, whomever it was, preached about Christmas and how he couldn't wait for his Christmas ham. I knew something was wrong but I had no idea. It's like that saying, "you don't know what you don't know and you don't know that you don't know it." I heard that homily over 30 years ago. As a kid, my gut reaction was to cry. I cried all way home. I turned 50 this past Christmas. I heard a beautiful mass at my fssp parish. I didn't cry after mass. But I do cry inside over my stolen heritage. I didn't grow up with the Latin mass that my ancestors knew and loved. The processions, the devotions, the general catholic culture that was so rich and beautiful. I'm not looking to start a liturgical war. Novus ordo vs TLM. But war is on our doorstep. We have to take sides. I finally found my heritage. I don't want it taken away from me.
Well said.
"They" must be so fearful of something as wonderful as the TLM. 1000s of young people with large families, raising their children in the faith and instilling great spiritual values and virtues for their earthly and eternal lives. It runs afoul to "their" plans.
Couples in their mid-twenties with 6 kids, don't know that it's biologically possible, baring twins, but they're doing it! 😆😇
Why is this so important to them? Why do they have to take away this beautiful mass? When will things change? It is just so confusing and I pray that someday somehow someone will allow us to have both masses available throughout our dioceses.
OK Mona, you're either late to the movie because you thought the preview trailers would be longer, or you just don't get it, which is quite normal and so are you. This "beautiful mass" (their quotes) is a THREAT to their Vat II Jesuit Sophomoric Modernist pre-global religion, the pre-liturgy of which is the "Ordinary" Form, the Novus Ordo. Think Abu Dhabi and the Abrahamic "Worship" Center, https://stevekraut.substack.com/p/ode-to-nostra-aetate-in-time. They have no choice, they have to squash it. If we want the TLM, we must make great sacrifices. The past 5 or so years of my life have had me moving around to various places and various jobs, all in the effort to get to a stable parish with a guaranteed daily TLM, in my case an FSSP parish in East TX. If they get squashed, SSPX is next. I will NEVER go back to Egypt! I am at the midpoint of my 70th year in this mortal coil, am retired, and will most likely be buried in Southern ground.
I have been upset about this since the first moment when Pope Francis first put limits on the TLM mass WHICH I HAD NEVER ACTUALLY ATTENDED. It’s just so disheartening when the bishops actually shut down every TLM in their diocese. I have since attended this beautiful mass but it was inconvenient so we only went once a month. Now even that mass was shut down, so that is why I am becoming more upset with this whole mess. I am a convert since 1976, so I had never realized what I was missing until it was taken away.
I am a born in 1955 Boomer who was raised on it until that fateful year of 1970, and it being during the waning days of industrial strength Catholicism, my emotional development, we were all hooked on rock-n-roll. I was all about guitars at mass, cool man! It just goes to show that Joni Mitchell's famous lyric "you don't know what chu've got 'til it's gone" - Big Yellow Taxi (1970) is hauntingly true, but that's how we learn. The Trad movement is in reaction to the Church's French Revolution. Don't know what your current situation is Mona, but if there were any way possible, I'd be gettin' the hell outta Dodge.
Thank you, Steve. I agree with you 100%. I had no idea what I was missing. I’m 1957!! We have a property in Colorado that we have built and love, so we won’t be moving. Just trying to be as traditional as possible until things change.
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Praying for a traditional pope!! 🙏🙏🙏
Well, despite the stole and red shoes, we didn't get one. 😒
Amy grant sang it in the 90's too. "You don't know what you've got til it's gone. The paved paradise and put up a parking lot. " in the Catholic case, there used to be a paradise of sorts in the pre Vatican two liturgy and then the wrecking ball came in the name of bringing the liturgy to the modern world. Anyway, my slow march towards traditionalism probably started when I was in junior high school and my parents took me to the cathedral for Christmas Mass. My birthday is on Christmas. All I remember about the Mass was the Christmas Ham homily. The bishop or archbishop, whomever it was, preached about Christmas and how he couldn't wait for his Christmas ham. I knew something was wrong but I had no idea. It's like that saying, "you don't know what you don't know and you don't know that you don't know it." I heard that homily over 30 years ago. As a kid, my gut reaction was to cry. I cried all way home. I turned 50 this past Christmas. I heard a beautiful mass at my fssp parish. I didn't cry after mass. But I do cry inside over my stolen heritage. I didn't grow up with the Latin mass that my ancestors knew and loved. The processions, the devotions, the general catholic culture that was so rich and beautiful. I'm not looking to start a liturgical war. Novus ordo vs TLM. But war is on our doorstep. We have to take sides. I finally found my heritage. I don't want it taken away from me.
Amen Sister!