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A Catholic Pilgrim's avatar

The response along the lines of "If people behave better, we wouldn't need to do this..." is the classic approach of an abuser, which is effectively what the church has become. In common parlance, I believe it is now referred to as "gaslighting." Opus Dei tried that approach of submission, it backfired on them.

As you say, trads are no different to any other Catholics in the sense that people are good and bad. But eastern rite Catholics and the Ordinariate, to name but two, are not subjected to the purity police in the same way that trads are. This is a persecution for ideological reasons. Time is running out for them so they crackdown harder. But it won't work.

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Richard Malcolm's avatar

"Compared to 2024, trads in 2005 were far rougher around the edges and far more outside the mainstream."

Which anyone who was around in an American trad community in 2005 would know, full well!

But the ideologues behind this crackdown on Rome do not care; and their online papaloter apologists haven't been exposed to anything but what they've seen in social media the last several years.

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